But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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First video
A scientific dark age, oh boy, right believing we came from monkeys from a explosion based on materials that existed from no other explanation than just because they say so is enlightment?
Sounds like a lot of fear of nothing more than daring to question Darwin. How unsettling? Give me a break.
Don't you just love how it sounds when you ban ideas? Sounds alot like commies and Hitler don't it? yet the Supreme Court did that in 87 according to this video when they outlawed creationism. Where is the fear I'm sensing from these evolutionists? Why are they so afraid for anyone to question their god Darwin? __________________
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I've noticed something here with this second video. It's as if the narrator is correlating Darwin's name and science itself as if you questioned Darwin you were questioning science. __________________
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Even I will admit a bias towards science at the outset of that movie. That bias doesn't continue much further after the beginning though. Please watch the rest for the full story. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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wow the narrator on the 3rd video admitted evolution was mathematically impossible. Funny the evo scientist is pretty insulting while the christians are very polite. I guess a dog gets pretty violent when it gets backed into a corner. __________________
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These guys just don't get it, to question Darwin, or to admit the obvious that someone of intelligence put together this world doesn't murder science. To question Darwin is to think and reason. If you can't question Darwin how do you move forward? __________________
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They get it very well Tim.
Darwin has to be questioned. His work has to be furthered or dismantled and nobody is holding up his work as absolute and incontrovertible. The fact that his theory is scientific means it sits there to be disputed by it's very nature and big money prizes and fame await someone who can actually take his theory down by presenting the next theory which would also be battled and so on.
To the contrary, to not question the existence of a supreme creator and just 'go with it' is to not move forward, to remain stagnant, and to remain as ignorant as the rest of us while feigning intelligence in the matter. Maybe it should be called Wannabe Intelligent Design.
Science is at least looking for answers and providing some. Theology provides one simple solution without any sort of evidence or science whatsoever. The bottom line is that none of us know the full story-absolutely nobody.
I can't see how you would disagree with that, but just in case... How is it worse to offer a progressive explaination that can further be added to or proven right or wrong than to sit on some trite little all-encompassing 'because I said so' command? __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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Quote: To the contrary, to not question the existence of a supreme creator and just 'go with it' is to not move forward, to remain stagnant, and to remain as ignorant as the rest of us while feigning intelligence in the matter.
Those guys don't want to question the creator's existance. They want to remove the question itself altogether. That's why I can't deal with folks like that. People that don't want to even sit down and talk about it, but just want to use judges and legal means to shut us up. Cowardly way to do things.
Quote: How is it worse to offer a progressive explaination that can further be added to or proven right or wrong than to sit on some trite little all-encompassing 'because I said so' command?
The question ought to be what is the best explanation. Darwinism isn't even in the same league. It's beyond obvious a designer was involved with creation. There is way too much order in the universe to point to an accidental anything. The fact we can sit here and argue proves to me there is a God. Accidents don't create they destroy as a rule.
I've passed the line of seperation of church and comic books. What do you think?
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Hey Tim cool picture you using him soon in upcoming comics??? __________________
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That is a cool pic Tim. Not that it has anything to do with what we're discussing, but it looks like a good character.
Back to the topic...
So what you're saying is that all scientists don't believe in God and reality is up for a vote and Darwin's theory negates theology and 'they' are out to get you?
Did I get it all? __________________
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Quote: Hey Tim cool picture you using him soon in upcoming comics???
At some point. I'm like really busy trying to get my sites looking good before Christmas while arguing with dude here in between of course.
Quote: So what you're saying is that all scientists don't believe in God and reality is up for a vote and Darwin's theory negates theology and 'they' are out to get you?
No I didn't say all scientist didn't believe in God. Darwin was an idiot, and you are out to get me.
Back to my character. I call him Seven because he'll have the strengths of seven characters from the Bible like the strength of Samson, wisdom of Solomon and like that. I'm still ironing at the details. I'm always day dreaming about comic book ideas you know while fighting with pak of course. Multitasking is a hard way of life but somebody has got to do everything. __________________
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If he's an idiot, you and I are in serious trouble....
I'm not out to get anyone Tim. As an evangelical, you have much bigger problems than me. There are people actually trying to prove Jesus didn't even exist. Bad enough with all the DaVinci Code stuff and others claiming to find his tomb; people are out to remove him from history. I'm only a nonbeliever in the mystical nonsense; I'm not your enemy.
The next time you can't respond to something or just don't want to, please just say so. __________________
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Quote: If he's an idiot, you and I are in serious trouble....
Why would we be in serious trouble?
Quote: I'm not your enemy.
I was kidding.
Let's try it again.
Quote: So what you're saying is that all scientists don't believe in God and reality is up for a vote and Darwin's theory negates theology and 'they' are out to get you?
A lot of scientists do believe in God, and that God created the world. A lot of scientists are brain washed evolutionists. Reality is never up for a vote. Evolution is a theory so it is not reality is it? We can't see evolution occurring in front of us now can we? You see any monkeys suddenly lose their hair and start quoting shakespeare lately?
Darwin's theory was an attempt by a sad little man to get back at God, or make a name for himself. Unfortunately I guess it was a good enough story tto get a few other scientist to play along till it became a religion. You knock evolution in science circles, and you've got to be prepared to pay the price otherwise I'd bet you see a lot more dissenting views toward evolution. Instead of let's find more evidence for or against it's a us vs them mentality. __________________
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We would be in serious trouble, because he was a lot smarter than either of us Tim, whatever you think of his theories.
Quote: Darwin's theory was an attempt by a sad little man to get back at God, or make a name for himself
or maybe explain our origins through scientific evidence.
I'd like to know, at this point, the answer to these questions. What about Darwin's theories exactly denies theology when God can do anything? Is it not possible that the authors of the bible could have missed on a couple of things-the really outrageous or vague things? __________________
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Quote: We would be in serious trouble, because he was a lot smarter than either of us Tim, whatever you think of his theories.
If he told you, that you evolved from a ford station wagon, and he had diagrams, would you think that was smart too?
Quote: Is it not possible that the authors of the bible could have missed on a couple of things-the really outrageous or vague things?
Are you asking if they missed the monkey tale? I don't think so pak. __________________
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monkey tale......
Quote: What about Darwin's theories exactly denies theology when God can do anything? Is it not possible that the authors of the bible could have missed on a couple of things-the really outrageous or vague things
I'm gonna try just reposting the questions until you feel like actually answering them instead of these games. __________________
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I also want to invite you to take a walk in my shoes, even if only for a brief moment.
Here's a vid of the 'Science of Islam'. Let me know what you think of their 'truth'.
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Ok that just sounds spooky. For one thing I don't understand a dad blamed thing they are saying. __________________
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Just go through it slowly Tim and connect the idea from the Quran with the piece of science they are saying is connected. The disbelief at what people claim is 'gospel'-welcome to my side of the line. Please enjoy your stay. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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