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Posted:  12 Oct 2009 23:31
You know what I think of public schools. They took God out, now they have to worry about kid's killing themselves.

Now they have lost all reason. A 6 year old is expelled because he brought an utensil knife to school, you know ones with forks, and spoons and such. He was just excited about joining the scouts or something.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/education/12discipline.html?no_ ...


What a bunch of maroons. Yes, folks these intellectual giants prove we need not have God in our schools. Man's great logic and reason is all he needs to form young minds, and use common sense in all avenues of training the young.

Yeah, ....right.
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Posted:  12 Oct 2009 23:38
Oh yeah read the part in the article about the girl that brought a cake and knife to cut it with via grandma, and got in trouble. The teacher cut the cake and then reported the girl to the principle. She cut the cake first. Do you believe that? Geez. No common sense.

This and red light cameras are going to drive me nuts.
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Posted:  13 Oct 2009 11:41
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They took God out, now they have to worry about kid's killing themselves.


Not that I haven't opined about the former before but these are both blown out of perspective and neither has anything to do with the other or it would seem even the topic at hand.

As for the article, for some reason I can't put my finger on exactly, I never imagined you ever reading anything published in the Times.

I'm pretty sure I don't have to explain the danger of 'zero tolerance' policies or of the nanny state virus that kicks in once you allow a freedom or two to get squashed and how it opens the door to all freedoms getting squashed.

Unfortunately, on the other hand, if there is a policy in place that the parents at least are aware of where the kids are not allowed to bring weapons of any sort to school, then the kid should not have brought it to school. The expulsion sucks but that speaks more to the zero tolerance than the rule itself which is intended to protect the students and staff(yes, even from a six year old, especially to protect them from themselves). I wouldn't want a six year old amped up on sugary cereal anywhere near my six year old with a razor blade for instance, would you?

The teacher who used the knife and then reported it? Says alot about the school system in the larger sense. Dumb.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  13 Oct 2009 17:56
I believe there was even talk of reform school for the 6 year old. Common sense is just gone. The appropriate steps should be taken based on the case. If you can't trust a teacher or a principle to make a common sense judgment in relation to a child's behavior problem or simple mistake in this case then they shouldn't be allowed to teach the kids in the first place. Apparently they aren't qualified to handle children. We need a zero tolerance policy for stupid teachers and school officials.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  13 Oct 2009 20:30
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We need a zero tolerance policy for stupid teachers and school officials.

Zero tolerance for zero tolerance?

We need less governement. It's not strictly stupid teachers or stupid administrators. Many simply have their hands tied.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  14 Oct 2009 22:09
In that case we need some teachers with enough bravery to stand up to the system.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  14 Oct 2009 23:34
How would you have them do this?
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  19 Oct 2009 15:08
Well for one let's take the example of the teacher that cut the cake with grandma's knife and then turned the kid in. If that were me, I would have mentioned it to grandma and left it at that.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.