San Francisco – The Sarah Palin-Arnold Schwarzenegger clash over climate change pits two Republican stalwarts in a tiff that brings to the fore the divisions within the GOP on environmental policy and global warming.
Quote: Ms. Palin criticized the Democrats cap-and-trade plan to limit greenhouse-gas emissions as a jobs killer and called on President Obama to boycott the Copenhagen climate talks, reflecting a skeptical view of global warming often seen in conservatives' Tea Party protests.
Mr. Schwarzenegger, a leading proponent of environmental policies to head off climate change, told the Financial Times: "You have to ask: what was she trying to accomplish? Is she really interested in this subject or is she interested in her career and in winning the nomination [for president]?"
Quote: Palin fired back on Facebook: “Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment?”
She was “among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change,” she said, adding, “While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can't primarily blame man's activities for those changes. And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn't do was hamstring Alaska's job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act "greener than thou" when talking to reporters.”
Everything Palin said makes sense. I love that line
"so that I could act "greener than thou" when talking to reporters." __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 17 Dec 2009 22:03
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I think it marks a sad day for my party when the pinacle of intelectual debate on such an issue is Sarah Palin and Arnold Schwartzaneger.
Nothign against Arnold per say, the man has accomplished a great deal in his life, but really this is not exaclty Inherit the Wind here.
Posted: 18 Dec 2009 20:18
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Arnold is just trying to get votes from all the girly men in California. I'm saddened that Arnold is not the tough guy politically he is on screen or in the gym. Ahhnold stop being a girly man and grow a pair politically. __________________
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You may need a pair of your own Tim. Eyes. You might like the idea that God was punishing somebody in New Orleans with Katrina when what really happened beside a failure on the part of the military in levee creation and rescue attempts after the fact tanking was that Mother Nature is going through her own version of the 'change of life'.
You could also refer to that top 10 news stories link I posted- number one was the passage through the melted glaciers and permafrost.
If that doesn't strike you, take a long look at all the natural disasters that have been cropping up in recent history involving earthquakes, mudslides, hurricanes, typhoons and tsunamis. Climate change is real and tangible- we see the effects of it, we suffer those effects.
Is it a lot of fearmongering? Maybe. Tell that to a person who watches their entire neighborhood or city, their entire life, get washed out to sea. Here's a visual reminder that just wound up in my inbox:
Palin is a media whoring private citizen who was once a marketing ploy for your chosen party as compared to Arnie who stayed at his post and is actually tackling a situation which is what he was hired to do, whether we agree with how or not. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 20 Dec 2009 04:21
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I'm always a little uncomfortable blaming global warming for Katrina. The problem with putting major stom complexs as an effect of global warming, when we get period with few storms, people use it as evidence agianst global warming.
In the end, the distruction of New Orleans was an engineering problem, the humanitarian crisis was the result of poor managment through out.
Really, the storm was just one of many that have hit New Orleans, the real problem was that the levee broke.
All that said, greater storm activity is a possible effect of global warming, but by far the least troubleing. really too much water is a temporary problem that humans have found ways to deal with for centuries, it's the worries about too little water that will really cause disruption to society.
But if you are an eternal optimist as I am, less water means people will have to live in more urban environments, which invariably leads to more social acceptence of diversity (not to mention more efficient living).
Posted: 20 Dec 2009 04:57
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There is the not so minor matter of all the freshwater altering the environs of what is normally saltwater- if what Al Gore and his pals are telling us is even slightly true, then we have the culprit right there for all those storms themselves, not to mention the effect on all life dependant on that particular environment which extends to other life on the planet-including us. Funny enough- flooding may merely be the tip of the iceberg. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 21 Dec 2009 06:06
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Well, I'm not too worried about the life cycle, mass extinction is likely, but we were due for one of those anyway.
A large number of species will adapt, even when change in environment is dramatic. You'll get invasive species which will in time differnentiate, and Man, having survived the last great die off by his wits will likely make it through this one as well. I think one of the biggest problems with Global Warming is that it is a global issue, and one that we've sort of already dug much of our hole for.
I don't think humans will be able to make the changes that would be required to really avert major climate alteration, and as such I think the best plan is just adaptation at this point.
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I believe we are being misled by both sides. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
