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Posted:  03 Sep 2010 08:04

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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  03 Sep 2010 18:36
I assume this was your video response pak.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  03 Sep 2010 19:32
Of course. I'm gonna paste it on every video that comes through my subscriptions dealing with this silly 'issue'.

What did you think? Be honest. I can take it.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  03 Sep 2010 20:32
Well I agree with you on there are a lot more pressing issues. I'm against the Mosque being built. It's just like bad taste. I think in fairness to everyone a compromise of building it some place else is in order.

What I really think though that has been made way too big of a deal lately is the old lady throwing the cat in the garbage can. Now there's something that shouldn't have gotten any publicity other than for maybe an animal cruelty website.

Another idea, Maybe the Muslims if they really wanted to create a peaceful atmosphere should instead of making a mosque that close to ground zero make a tribute to those that died.

But yeah, it's not something I personally would want to waste my life worrying about. I'm against it, and that's about all I know. Can't say much more than that.

I'm sure there are politicians like you say wanting to milk this for votes.

I do have one more thought though. Maybe one other angle people have neglected is would it really be that easy for a Christian church to get zoning permission in that area or any other building project. After all it's New York. The Mosque should at least have to go by the same lengthy string of regulations as anybody else that much I know for sure.

Ok I'm done.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  03 Sep 2010 20:58
You should browse through the links I provide on the YouTube pages themselves.

Here's the thing about an Islamic tribute; it ignores all non-believers. I heard plenty of people screaming at me that 'Muslims died that day too!' and this is absolutely true. Keep in mind I never argued with these people any differently either. Immediately after they would insist that a Muslim memorial should be built. Unfortunately, with all the best intentions, they were being hypocritical without realizing it. Islam simply does not function as a secular system. It is strictly a one way faith with no evidence of tolerance for nonbelievers as this Imam is feigning at and what Christians at least have the courtesy of displaying.

As for zoning issue, most religious groups can invoke RLUIPA, a religious land use act, to bypass zoning laws. There's a link to an article about RLUIPA on one of the earlier controversy vids and several worth looking at involving Islam and Sharia on this one.

I'll post the links for this one on this page. please check them out and let me know your thoughts, if and when you can find time in your schedule.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  03 Sep 2010 21:03
My first two videos on the controversy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yDlQ5sSWiA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQ-29U3MG4

Imam Rauf Exposed: Off mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT8s1a1E4nk

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf: "Sharia Law And US Constitution is The Same"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT8s1a1E4nk

To the Moderate Muslim: Infidel Observations of Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avYtAyCxUbA

Ex-Muslim: Moderate Muslims are those do not know Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PImCk4gtQg

MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO!!(facts and figures about Islam, not a good title for this content)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luKaov5MQno

Interview, Sam Solomon, Ottawa june 7 done(more about Islam, another unfortunate title)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDs-hCIL_wM

What is Sharia Law? Why it threatens America. Wafa Sultan explains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox7OdSQxDO0

Sam Harris Religious Moderates problem with believing in a immoral god
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82YIluFmdbs

Former Muslims United Mission Statement
http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/about/mi ...

A Test of Tolerance by Christopher Hitchens
http://www.slate.com/id/2264770/?from=rss
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles