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Posted:  24 Nov 2011 19:05
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A new survey on health care is revealing that you may not be getting what you pay for if you check into a U.S. hospital.
The U.S. healthcare system is more effective at delivering high costs than quality care than other developed nations, according to the study, conducted by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, or OECD.
It found first-rate treatment for cancer but insufficient primary care for other ailments.
The study said Americans pay more than $7,900 per person for healthcare each year - far more than any other OECD country - but still die earlier than their peers in the industrialized world.
The cost of healthcare in the United States is 62 percent higher than that in Switzerland, which has a similar per capita income and also relies substantially on private health insurance.
Meanwhile, Americans receive comparatively little actual care, despite sky-high prices driven by expensive tests and procedures.
They also spend more tax money on healthcare than most other countries, the study showed.



source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065548/U-S-ranks-28th-li ...

My personal take, you can throw money at something all day, but if it's not done smartly it's a waste of money. More can be done for an individual's health by simply doing the basics than spending all the money in the world on healthcare. You can do more good for yourself by eating right and exercising during a lifetime than what a doctor can do for you once the damage has been done. Doctors need to be the last line of defense instead of the first. People have got to take personal responsibility for their health. That's where it should start.
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Posted:  24 Nov 2011 22:02
I don't want to detract from your point because people should be responsible for themselves as best as they can, how many illness cannot be prepared for or prevented? Not even taking that into account, correct me if I'm wrong, but are all 24 of the countries that are doing better than us on this survey actually spending less per person and getting better results through universal healthcare and not through individual insurance?
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Posted:  25 Nov 2011 12:32
Universal health care would certainly be cheaper than individual health care, due both the economy of scale, and the restriction of benefits.

We spend more on health care mostly because we spend so unwisely, a beurrucrat (be they public or private) will often have a better understanding of the risk vs. benefti equation for a specific treatment than either a doctor or patient (both of whom have a vested interest in siding on over treatment).

The point of that is, however, that universal health care in the U.S. won't necessarily increase our life expectancy or quality of life, since what our over spending on is mostly unecessary tests and treatments.

It might not even reduce costs, if we continue to have politicians, doctors and people make choices based on passion rather than reason with regard to health care.

Now, when you're in that spot and being passionate, you may not want that for yourself, but it is the only way to control health costs.

Living longer however has much more to do with genetics and basic nutrition (and basic sanitation) than it does with your medical coverage.