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Posted:  18 Sep 2008 06:26

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And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  18 Sep 2008 10:02
The people on this site don't believe in medical doctors Pak.
Posted:  18 Sep 2008 15:11
Almost everyone here has children-I believe they probably do.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  18 Sep 2008 19:19
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The people on this site don't believe in medical doctors Pak.
yeah, I've never went to a dr. myself.

I've survived all my life by farming my own gardens and hunting my own meat in the forests. By avoiding all the contaminants you guys get at the grocery store I've avoided doctors all together.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  18 Sep 2008 20:10
So nobody cares about the possibility of President Palin? Are any of you really ok with that?
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  19 Sep 2008 18:15
I am. A heck of a lot better than a President Obama. That man's a freakin communist.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  19 Sep 2008 20:25
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That man's a freakin communist.


why?

(maybe I should be asking what you think a communist is after all this time?)
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  19 Sep 2008 21:05
He's a liberal socialist. Everybody agrees there is nobody in Washington more liberal. Liberal Socialism and communism are the same thing. That's why you see so many hollywood actors loving up to dictators all the time.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  19 Sep 2008 21:25
So Obama equals Stalin or Marx to you and the rest of the country is just too stupid to see this  besides you?

Reawrd yourself appropriately.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  19 Sep 2008 21:43
I'm not the only one that sees it. I would venture a guess that most people who are voting against Obama see him as a radical lefty.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  19 Sep 2008 22:29
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I would venture a guess that most people who are voting against Obama see him as a radical lefty.

Left and Right do not automatically equal radical in either direction.

People might or might not vote for Obama based on a lot of things.
His color.
His party.
Attack ads.
Policies.
Running mate.
Campaign.
Skeletons in the closet, real and imagined.

McCain has a nice list as well. Replace skin color with skin cancer and they're identical.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 02:41
Barack Obama is a radical, Pak, I have to agree with Tim on that one. He was voted the most liberal senator in 2007 by the National Journal.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/01/31/obama-ranked-most-liberal ...
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Posted:  20 Sep 2008 03:06
Considering his whole platform is about change, he calls himself radical.

What does maverick mean again?
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 04:03   Last Edited By: Steve Rogers
Straight from the dictionary:

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an unbranded calf, cow, or steer, esp. an unbranded calf that is separated from its mother.
 

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a lone dissenter, as an intellectual, an artist, or a politician, who takes an independent stand apart from his or her associates.


Both are mavericks. You pick the one you like better.
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Posted:  20 Sep 2008 04:47
I think you're missing the part where maverick and radical are the same thing.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 04:53
Oh no, I know what you were trying to say. I never noticed anything radical about McCain, but that's just me. Personally, I would prefer him to be a bit more conservative.
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Posted:  20 Sep 2008 04:57
Not that it affects much, but the places where he skews off from his base or where you want him to be more conservative or whatever thing his campaign his trying to paint him a maverick over are radical, by definition.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 06:05
I think it was your sentence structure that confused me, but are you saying that he is a radical because of the way he is going about his campaign?
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"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
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Posted:  20 Sep 2008 06:28
I do use run oun sentences alot. It's my personal style for lack of a better excuse.

When he skews from his conservative base, he's being radical.
The issues you have where he doesn't meet your standard as a conservative make him radical.
Every time his campaign has his selling point be some variation of the maverick theme, his campaign makes him radical.
Any time he's going to oppose his party in any way, he's being radical.

Him and Obama are both running these 'we're going to shake up how things are normally run' speeches-hence, both radical.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 06:39
Alright. You've made a good point here. But so what? If he is a radical, it doesn't matter so much cause even if he doesn't get elected, we're getting a radical as our president anyway.
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"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
- Ronald Reagan
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 07:00
Neither one is a "Radical". They could not have gotten nominated being that far away from the mainstream. They are however both trying to offer radical approaches as campaign promises.

What matters is what's actually going to get accomplished regardless of which gets the job. We have got to focus on the issues and decide which one is offering something better first, and then if they can actually deliver on their promises. Useless titles and empty promises and mudslinging mean absolute squat compared to what either of these characters are going to actually do once in power.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 15:47
I believe in looking at their voting records. I like McCain's a lot better.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 18:00
Of course. Obama's voting records are much too liberal for my liking.
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"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
- Ronald Reagan
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 18:53
I'm not concerned with voting records. If I were, I'd have to care about McCain lockstepping with Bush nine out of ten times.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 21:01
That sounds like Obama rhetoric. If you ask me when it comes to reckless spending issues Obama seems to echo Bush more than McCain.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 21:23
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That sounds like Obama rhetoric.

Feel free to look up how many times exactly McCain voted right along with Bush. Not empty or rhetorical.

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when it comes to reckless spending

Is this about each of their voting records or earmarks specifically?
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 21:44
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_vote ...
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  20 Sep 2008 23:56
When it comes to moral issues dear to the republican party I would expect McCain to mirror Bush.

But you take what Obama says he's going to do and it sounds a lot like Bush.

A month or so ago if you'll recall Obama wanted to give more tax rebates. That was a Bush thing obviously.

Obama wants universal healthcare. Bush spent millions on prescription drug benefits.

So far Obama has gave the impression he agrees with the bail outs, and he seems to be unwilling to give any specific ideas of his own on dealing with this crisis only saying it's a bad time to say in so many words.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  21 Sep 2008 00:07
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When it comes to moral issues

Such as?

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Obama wanted to give more tax rebates.

I don't agree with the stimulus package either. Has McCain expressly said he would not be doing such?

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Obama wants universal healthcare. Bush spent millions on prescription drug benefits.

Access to affordable insurance and prescription benefits are in the same neighborhood but not the same thing. What's McCain offering as far as healthcare is concerned?

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Obama has gave the impression he agrees with the bail outs

I've heard him blame the recent troubles for Wall Street on deregulation. Where did you get your impression?

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unwilling to give any specific ideas of his own

Haven't had a good laugh in a while. Name some specific ideas of McCain. I know you're going to want to say something along the lines of smaller government and less spending-these are not specific. I'm anxiously awaiting an answer to this one.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles

And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted:  21 Sep 2008 00:18
What's to laugh I just heard Obama give a news conference the other day where he basically said in as fancy as words possible that he couldn't come up with anything or it might cause more unstability. Basically he don't want to say, so nobody can quote him or knock down what he thinks.

Politics as usual.

McCain hasn't said heaps but what little he did say makes sense and even the Messiah agreed with him. Basically McCain said a group should be started to watch these large companies and get to them before they collapse rather than wait till it's too late.

Moral Issues? Go down the list. Abortion, gay rights, the whole republican platform basically.

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I don't agree with the stimulus package either. Has McCain expressly said he would not be doing such?
To my knowledge McCain hasn't said he would. Just that he wants to keep taxes lower. Saves a lot of time and money that way. Think of how much it costs to government to reprocess that money we give them to give back to us again.


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What's McCain offering as far as healthcare is concerned?
I'll leave it up to you to visit McCain's website on that. All I'm interested in with regards to healthcare is that the government get involved as little as possible. It's bad enough as it is. Who needs the government screwing it up worse.
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.