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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 21:42
Republicans if the primary were held today who would you choose?
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 21:47
I'm going for Fred Thompson.

1. Seems likeable
2. Mostly Conservative record while not a perfect 100 percent. I think he gets an low A anyway.
3. Good speaker. We haven't had one of those since Reagan.
4. I think he understands conservatism, and I think he's been trying to show that by his blogs.
5. Has some star power thanks to movies and TV.
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Posted:  31 Aug 2007 21:52
Huckabee, because he seems reasonable and doesn't spend all his stump time talking about torturing people.
Posted:  01 Sep 2007 16:34
Thompson seems really funny to me. He made his money lobbying for drug companies and abortion rights groups, which you'd think would get him slammed by so-called conservative voters, but he broke out the red pickup truck.

Did I say "broke out"? Oh, I mean go buy one to use as a cheap prop to fool folks.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?&Dato=20070318&K ...

Since then, it's sat near his family's house, because he is a rich-limo-riding Hollywood-type.

But people like the phony schtick, so it's OK. When are (mostly conservative) voters going to stop voting for the guy they most wanna have a beer with? Research the issues.
Posted:  01 Sep 2007 20:35   Last Edited By: Tim
Well I haven't seen anything on him lobbying for drug companies or abortionist. Not driving his red truck doesn't strike me as a big moral issue. I don't think a vote on red trucks ever came up while he was in office.

Here's what I have found about Fred and his abortion stance.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Fred_Thompson_Abortion.htm

Roe v. Wade was bad law and bad science
On the issue of abortion Thompson was unequivocal: "Prolife." Asked if he supported overturning Roe v. Wade, Thompson was equally unequivocal: "I think Roe v. Wade was bad law and bad medical science And the way to address that is through good judges. I don't think the court ought to wake up one day and make new social policy for the country. It's contrary to what it's been the past 200 years... That's what happened in this case [Roe v. Wade]. I think it was wrong."

Has never been pro-choice despite 1994 news reports
Some news reports from Thompson's 1994 campaign classified him as pro-choice. Thompson confesses to being perplexed over the confusion about his position on the issue: "I have read these accounts [about me being pro-choice] and tried to think back 13 years ago as to what may have given rise to them, although I don't remember it."
But, he adds: "I was interviewed and rated pro-life by the National Right to Life folks in 1994, and I had a 100% voting record on abortion issues while in the Senate." Planned Parenthood gave him a ZERO rating because of his pro-life voting record. NARAL (National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League) gave him an "F" rating when considering potential vice-presidential candidates in 2000.

Ultimately, however, Thompson is motivated on the issue from a personal level, not just a legalistic or moralistic viewpoint. He has said the issue "means more'' to him now because he has had two children in recent years. "I have seen the sonograms of my babies.''

Source: The Fred Factor, by Steve Gill, p.159-160 Jun 3, 2007

more on Fred for President
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted:  01 Sep 2007 21:17
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-06-06-tho ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson#Lobbyist

After first denying Thompson accepted work from a family-planning group, Thompson's spokesmen says Freedy doesn't remember that, but doesn't deny it, either.

Classy.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/4908.html
Posted:  01 Sep 2007 22:04   Last Edited By: Tim
Is this what you are talking about? Doesn't sound like lobbying sounds like a small court case if I'm reading it right. I think of lobbying as running around trying to get votes.
Billing records show that Thompson, who describes his position as pro-life, was paid for about 20 hours of work in 1991 and 1992 on behalf of a family planning group trying to ease a departmental regulation on abortion counseling in federally-funded clinics. Sounds a little discouraging but not like the end of the world. The last work he did revolving around abortion was his voting record and it seems pretty sound for pro-life. I suppose if you go back far enough anybody could look bad. Embarrassing yes, but not necessarily a nail in coffin argument that Fred is a hypocrite of some sort.

Your obama candidate for example http://reallypolitical.com/article26.htm is currently going to a racist church. So wouldn't that be of greater importance than 20 hours of work 20 years ago?

Reading your last link Fred said
“If a client has a legal and ethical right to take a position, then you may appropriately represent him as long as he does not lie or otherwise conduct himself improperly while you are representing him. In almost 30 years of practicing law I must have had hundreds of clients and thousands of conversations about legal matters. Like any good lawyer, I would always try to give my best, objective and professional opinion on any legal question presented to me.”

Same link
So the difference may boil down to how you define “lobbying.”

The former “Law and Order” actor has an anti-abortion voting record as a U.S. senator from Tennessee, but some statements he made early in his political career have led some conservatives to question whether he once had favored abortion rights.

My point - So at best one might think he had a different idea about abortion almost 20 years ago. So hey if that's the case I'm good as long he believes abortion is wrong now and sticks with it. People change. I'm worried about Romney it's only been a couple of years and he's changed on almost everything. Now that scares me.

your link again - “Consider the source,” said one Thompson adviser. “Conservatives don’t pay much attention to liberal groups that say they want to help, and tell them why their guy isn’t as great as they think.”
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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.