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Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 06 Oct 2008 21:21
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Oh come now, you all have to think this is cool. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 06 Oct 2008 21:26
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Why's that? __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 07 Oct 2008 17:15
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It's funny yet true. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 07 Oct 2008 21:03
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It's not funny(it's not clever or catchy either-it's a poor photoshop job to boot) and the truth of it's debatable. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 08 Oct 2008 18:05
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Wait a second to respond I must first play the video again. Yes there goes the music. Dum, dum dum dum da da da.
Hey big government and socialist government is tyrannical. Just because he's got a nice smile you think he may not be hiding plans for a future dictatorship of sorts.
He admitted last night on the debate he wants to charge fines for those that don't have health insurance for their kids, and that's only what he admits to while running for election. God only knows what he'll do if he wins.
The government will become our supreme deity telling us how to live and threatening us with force if we don't obey. As for me I bow to no man. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 08 Oct 2008 21:15
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If you have to explain a joke in depth, it usually wasn't funny in the first place.
Quote: As for me I bow to no man.
Jesus
John Wayne
Ronald Reagan
Chuck Norris
Oh, I see. you kneel for some men and bow to none. I get it. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 09 Oct 2008 01:28
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I gladly kneel to Jesus because He is God.
The rest I just really respect. Chuck has never told me he's going to fine me if I don't have healthcare insurance. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 09 Oct 2008 01:41
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None of them has promised to tax your health benefits either, unlike McCain. For a big picture type of guy you oddly keep leaving out half of the picture. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 09 Oct 2008 01:49
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McCain keeps saying he's going to allow us to choose our own healthcare. Nothing about forcing us to have it at gun point. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 09 Oct 2008 02:01
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People who are already getting work related health benefits will have them newly taxed by his administration.
Offering people 5k out of the 12k(which should increase under this plan without being offset by a larger tax credit) is lackluster at best.
Saying he's ok with people crossing state lines to get whatever healthcare they want is similar thinking to what's happened to our economy right now.
McCain's plan would indeed be 'at gunpoint'. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Now after reading that, you tell me where it says there will be a new tax added on to anybody. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 09 Oct 2008 18:48
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Great. You've included something that did escape me before. He only wants to provide $2,500 to individuals.
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After reading that, the only thing you're aware of is the tax credit. No kidding. You have more work to do then, or don't. Up to you. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 09 Oct 2008 19:33
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Here's a response to your great conservative and his really bad idea of tax money buying more bad investments.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 10 Oct 2008 16:15
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How did we get from the healthcare policy of McCain to the mortgage crisis?
You didn't address my question.
I repeat once again you tell me where it says there will be a new tax added on to anybody in McCain's healthcare crisis? __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 10 Oct 2008 20:29
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He's your candidate, you should already be doing your own homework(or have done it already by now actually).
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 11 Oct 2008 12:54
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You guys have got to see this.
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But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 11 Oct 2008 21:16
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You made an accusation that you don't really know anything about pak.
You said
Quote: People who are already getting work related health benefits will have them newly taxed by his administration.
And I just wanted to know where that came from because I didn't find it on John McCain's site. I can only assume it came from Obama or some other liberal site which means not much at all. It's McCain's plan there ought to be some indication on his site to make some accusation like that.
It's not like Obama who has a record for higher taxes and liberal voting in general. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 12 Oct 2008 13:21
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Quote: I didn't find it on John McCain's site.
Duh?
I offered you that vid to start your homework. You choosing to ignore the information doesn't alter it's validity or existence. You don't have to look up anything or watch that vid or look further into it, but don't deny it just because you don't want it to be true.
By the way, it's a bit unnerving how you have to keep reverting to Obama slams instead of providing positives for your candidate to actually refute any negatives that come his way. Then again it's not much your fault for not having the positives to provide so I can't really hold it against you either. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 12 Oct 2008 19:29
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Tell me one positive thing about Obama then. He speaks confidently. So did Hitler.
The video isn't showing McCain say
Quote: People who are already getting work related health benefits will have them newly taxed by his administration.
That was your claim. Now the video just makes more claims. Why jump to another one when you haven't answered the first claim with proof yet?
The government taking control of health care is not the answer as Obama thinks. That comes with it's own laundry list of problems. Once government takes over. It's almost impossible to get rid of it. __________________
Lucas McCain the Rifleman: A man doesn't run from a fight, Mark...but that doesn't mean you should go running *to* one, either.
Posted: 12 Oct 2008 22:35
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It does explain pretty clearly what I said though-if you can't see it or hear it, I can't help you. It won't matter what article or video or statistical data I show you, you clearly won't see it because you can't grasp that he isn't advertising the negatives of his(using term loosely) policies any more than Obama is.
Quote: The government taking control of health care is not the answer as Obama thinks.
It's also not the ruination of society you make it out to be either.
With everything going on these days, I'm hard pressed to see the problem with giving people 'free' healthcare. Convince me of what's actually wrong with socialist healthcare, seriously. Especially in light of socialist bailout packages...
Quote: He speaks confidently. So did Hitler.
Just stop doing this. It's annoying.
Quote: Tell me one positive thing about Obama then
You show me yours and I'll show you mine-I did ask first.
I also tried listing a side by side comparison of them already on the issues which absolutely no-one had a response to. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 13 Oct 2008 05:48
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Quote: You show me yours and I'll show you mine-I did ask first.
I'll be honest with you, Pak. I don't even like my candidate that much. He certainly wasn't my first choice. Whenever I write political columns directed towards the campaign, I spend most of my time bashing Obama rather than praising McCain. Its just that I would much much rather have McCain than Obama. __________________
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Quote: I also tried listing a side by side comparison of them already on the issues which absolutely no-one had a response to.
That may have been before I got on the site. Show me where it is, I'll comment on it. __________________
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Quote: Its just that I would much much rather have McCain than Obama.
I'm in a pretty similar boat actually. I'm more anti-McCain than pro-Obama. If it were not for our poor system of elections I would probably never spend time talking about either one of them. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
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I'm just an anti-Obama guy personally. McCain is a little too liberal for my liking.
I'll look those up. __________________
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Posted: 13 Oct 2008 23:02
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Quote: you can't grasp that he isn't advertising the negatives of his(using term loosely) policies any more than Obama is.
Of course I know that is a possibility as with any candidate or business for that matter, but you claimed he was going to make a new tax. If the man didn't say that anywhere then at best it's a guess, but you said it as if it were a fact that McCain himself said. That in itself is like false advertising.
Quote: With everything going on these days, I'm hard pressed to see the problem with giving people 'free' healthcare.
If it fell out of the trees with the rest of the money we need that would be fine, but either the government would have to raise taxes on everyone which hurts the individual and businesses which means less spending which means less jobs which means less spending and on and on, or the government would have to just start printing more money to cover it. Which is really bad on the value of the dollar.
Now let's not even mention that constitutionally it's not the government's job to provide healthcare. The government is supposed to create an environment that allows for Americans to seek their own good fortune, but it is not supposed to take citizens to raise. What the government might do is try to figure out why healthcare is so costly and go from there, but if they just go in and put caps on the costs that would also be terrible on our healthcare system quality wise.
If the government gets involved you also have to ask yourself is it fair that I pay for a guy's healthcare costs who has been drinking, smoking, and never exercised a day in his life. No of course not.
So does the government then demand everyone adhere to lives of no smoking, no drinking, healthy diets, and exercise? Just to make it fair now. See it's a nightmare. __________________
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Quote: but you said it as if it were a fact that McCain himself said.
That is a fact and no, he is not saying anything about it, and he is not denying it when it is brought up directly to him either. Show me where he says he's not taxing those health benefits if you want to go strictly by his word. He's not saying anything on that part of the subject-he just points out the meager tax credit and what big bad Bama is gonna do to his fellow prisoners.
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Quote: If it fell out of the trees
C)Shut down military operations in however many of the 130 countries we presently have a permanent prsence in that we don't need to be in, sell off the government's excess real estate and equipment that they are letting rot, cash out everybody on Social Security and shut that nonsense down, reform welfare to the brink of extinction, and keep America healthy by extending the existing Medicaire program-not that hard when you think about it.
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Quote: So does the government then demand everyone adhere to lives of no smoking, no drinking, healthy diets, and exercise?
Let your imagination run wild with this; what if they were no longer collecting taxes on tobacco and alcohol products. Think about the long term effects on everything from product availability to special interest groups and lobbyists and let me know what you come up with.
Quote: is it fair that I pay for a guy's healthcare costs
Before I give a lengthy answer here, I did post a thread about and to the film America:Freedom to Fascism. Watch that and get back to me about what your taxes are actually paying for, not to mention what fairness is to our present government. __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
Posted: 14 Oct 2008 17:17
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Quote: That is a fact and no, he is not saying anything about it, and he is not denying it when it is brought up directly to him either.
Still a guess if it's not there in his proposal. He doesn't have a history of taxing, and until he does then there nothing to go on to suggest he would than Obama's word of opposition.
Quote: )Shut down military operations in however many of the 130 countries we presently have a permanent prsence in that we don't need to be in, sell off the government's excess real estate and equipment that they are letting rot, cash out everybody on Social Security and shut that nonsense down, reform welfare to the brink of extinction, and keep America healthy by extending the existing Medicaire program-not that hard when you think about it.
Shutting down our military presence is a big mistake. There's a reason we have bases around the world. I could care less about social security it's a failed experiment. Just something else the government screwed up. Universal healthcare is welfare. You'll have your liberal buddies screaming bloody murder that you are starving children and old people. __________________
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Posted: 14 Oct 2008 17:19
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Quote: what if they were no longer collecting taxes on tobacco and alcohol products.
It would be a better moral choice for our nation not to profit from products that are bad for the American public. That much I know. __________________
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Quote: Still a guess if it's not there in his proposal.
Not a guess.
Quote: Shutting down our military presence is a big mistake.
Why is this?
Quote: There's a reason we have bases around the world.
Name one good one.
Quote: a better moral choice for our nation not to profit from products that are bad
Since when do profits and morality mingle? __________________
But the backdrops peel and the sets give way and the cast get eaten by the play, there's a murderer at the matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and the actors too are uncertain if the show is through and with sidelong looks await their cue, but the frozen mask just smiles
