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| Posted: 12 Oct 2008 22:56 |
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Is it totally shocking that this stuff doesn't matter a bit to me?
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| Posted: 13 Oct 2008 00:37 |
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No, not at all.
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| Posted: 13 Oct 2008 22:50 |
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I'm confused that Pak is an atheists that doesn't get upset over people worshiping a man that's running for President. If he's scared of a theocracy, then how bad is it if the people treat a man like God? Talk about eating away at our freedom.
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| Posted: 13 Oct 2008 22:54 |
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He doesn't care because he doesn't view idolatry as a sin.
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| Posted: 13 Oct 2008 23:10 |
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Yeah but if you don't want religion of any form in government surely that would count worship of a man as well?
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| Posted: 13 Oct 2008 23:12 |
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That's a liberal for you.
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| Posted: 14 Oct 2008 02:22 |
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Actually, what you have is one nut saying a nutty thing. Hardly an issue. Funny, but hardly an issue.
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| Posted: 14 Oct 2008 11:57 |
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I don't see Obama supporters as worshippers any more than McCain supporters(if one side deserves that notoriety than the other deserves it too) and I don't believe in any thing being called a sin.
These things have nothing to do with religious involvement in government or a theocracy.
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| Posted: 14 Oct 2008 17:08 |
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If Obama supporters aren't worshipers then why do they call him the Messiah? And if that's not enough why do they all look like they are on the verge of tears?
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Another fine example of trying to give a prominent role to a nonissue.
They don't call him the messiah. You have a clip of Farrakhan(spelling?) doing this, not Obama's 'followers'-not even Farrakhan's followers.
Also, why aren't you addressing McCain's disciples at the same time while you're meadering down this back alley? You know the ones that are screaming 'traitor' and 'kill him' and 'terrorist' at McCain's rallies every time Obama's name comes up?
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Well if the Messiah thing keeps coming up they can add possible anti-Christ to those names.
People are getting angry, and if Obama wins there is going to be one heck of an angry back lash. This country is going to be divided like never before. If the dems had actually wanted unity they should have never nominated a man as far to the left as Obama.
I'm just going to pray really hard for this country if he gets elected. I'm even going to pray for Obama. Pray to God he's not going to destroy this country. As Christians we are to pray for our leaders.
There are going to be people out there though that are going to seriously have a lot of hate for Obama. Racists maybe. Maybe just people who lean to the far right, but people of one extreme will always create people on the other extreme. I look for it unfortunately.
If Obama does win I recommend that he do everything in his power to unite this country vs tearing it apart with his radical beliefs. In other words I hope he rules down the middle at least vs way on the left.
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they can add possible anti-Christ to those names.
People on your side of the aisles are already calling Obama this.
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if Obama wins there is going to be one heck of an angry back lash.
Considering how some conservatives can't even back McCain, prepare yourself.
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I'm even going to pray for Obama. Pray to God he's not going to destroy this country.
I can't tell which is worse. You thinking that would actually do something, you saying those two things together, or thinking you're scoring points on me with it.
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people out there though that are going to seriously have a lot of hate for Obama.
He got his first death threats as soon as he announced his candidacy. He's still running.
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tearing it apart with his radical beliefs.
You want unity? Do your part and stop posting manure like this entire sore loser post. It would be a welcome start. McCain hasn't lost just yet(it doesn't look good, but he's still in it too). There's no point doing an appeal to fear to change someone's mind at this point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear
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| Posted: 15 Oct 2008 23:01 Last Edited By: Steve Rogers |
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Considering how some conservatives can't even back McCain, prepare yourself.
If you call yourself a conservative, it doesn't seem smart to not back McCain. If you are a conservative, your main goal should be keeping Obama out of office.
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I can't tell which is worse. You thinking that would actually do something, you saying those two things together, or thinking you're scoring points on me with it.
I know this statement is directed at Tim but you don't seem to realize that as Christians, we are inclined to pray. To say that it is foolish or ridiculous to think praying for Obama would actually do something, could also be applied to any situation where praying is involved.
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To say that it is foolish or ridiculous to think praying for Obama would actually do something, could also be applied to any situation where praying is involved.
I agree 100%.
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I agree 100%.
This is a political topic, Pak, please refrain from attacks on our faith.
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It wasn't an attack, and if comments are not meant to be made on a topic, then the topic should not be introduced in the first place.
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| Posted: 16 Oct 2008 01:05 Last Edited By: Steve Rogers |
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You didn't need to say praying is useless. This is not the issue, and it does not affect the arguement at all.
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| Posted: 16 Oct 2008 01:38 |
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I didn't say it, you did-to which I agreed. I didn't make it the issue either. All you.
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You said it, "can't tell which is worse. You thinking that would actually do something," Now enough of this. Let's get back to Barack Obama.
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ffs...you're keeping this afloat(by quote mining now no less).
You're saying let's get back to Obama-fine-where's your post on that then? What do you want to talk about concerning the candidates?
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People on your side of the aisles are already calling Obama this. Like people on your side have been calling Bush. Only Bush never had anyone call him a Messiah which makes Obama look a lot more suspect.
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There's no point doing an appeal to fear to change someone's mind at this point.
James Carville started that last week when he said if Obama loses after being ahead in the polls there was going to be trouble in the streets. (paraphrasing) I heard the clip on Rush last week. I hoped to find it on youtube.
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Like people on your side have been calling Bush.
Any names people call him are based on his actions-and those names are coming from every side imaginable.
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James Carville started that....
and?
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